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Who is to blame - Mesut Ozil or Unai Emery?  

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Admin Martin
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10/06/2019 1:13 am  

One of the biggest issues dividing Arsenal fans is what to do with Mesut Ozil and we ran a poll yesterday on the JustArsenal website asking Should Arsenal sell Mesut Ozil even at a loss? and the result was fairly comprehensive with 87% out of 527 votes saying sell him.

So on the face of it, the debate is basically dead, sell him, however, the question that was not asked was who is to blame for the poor performances from the German, is it the manager or the player?

Some argue that it is Emery, the argument goes that the manager has failed to take advantage of Ozil talents and has instead asked him to play a game not suited to his style.

It is further claimed that when a team plays to Ozil style they perform much better and point to his time at Real Madrid and earlier on under Arsene Wenger as proof of this.

And it must be said they do have a point but there is an alternative point of view and on balance, it is one I agree with.

Ozil is not Messi or Ronaldo and even with those two, they did not have teams built to their style of play. When Messi made his debut for Barcelona they were already playing the sort of football that they have played for the last decade, Messi had to fit into the Barcelona style, not the other way around.

It cannot be right that a team is built around one player, what if that player got injured? what then.

No, there has to be a team style and all the players have to adapt to that and it is clear that Ozil is unable to adapt to whatever Emery is trying to implement.

Ozil in his prime was clearly one of the best in his position but it is hardly the fault of Emery that the German playmaker will not tackle back and spends half a game wandering around wondering what day it is.

I also cannot go with the argument that Ozil is not surrounded by world-class players and that affects his game because I tell you this, Aubameyang and Lacazette are two top attackers and if they are not good enough to bring the best out of Ozil then God help us.

I know that some point to the partnership with Alexis Sanchez but we were hardly fighting for the title or setting the Champions League alight when both were in their pomp.

On balance, I blame Ozil, it is down to him that his game has dropped off and no one else, put simply if he is good enough he would adapt.


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Bakugan
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10/06/2019 1:29 am  

Ozil was awful under Wenger near the end and I reckon it was better players that made him look good when he really wasn't so cannot blame Emery at all.


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10/06/2019 1:31 am  

But surely the manager is also expected to get the best from his players, Pochettino, Klopp and Guardiola do it even with aged established players so cant Emery?


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10/06/2019 1:32 am  

Of course it is Ozil to blame he is taking the piss most of the time just look at how he walked off against Chelsea, that said it all about his attitude.


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10/06/2019 5:02 am  

But if a player is not willing, change is impossible. There is only so much a coach can do then. Özil does not seem to be willing or able to change. 2 years is not a temporay loss of form.


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Admin Pat
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10/06/2019 10:45 am  

I'm definitely going with Ozil too. His attitude stinks and not just this season just gone.


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10/06/2019 10:55 am  

It definitely looked like some sort of power struggle at beginning of season, and it looks like Ozil simply doesn't like Emery or his methods. The more I think of Ozil I think his ego is just too big to accept instruction. Get rid


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Admin Martin
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10/06/2019 8:13 pm  

@Midkemma 

If you want to make a point and for people to take you seriously I would suggest calling them stupid because they have a different point of view to you is not the best way to go about it.

I stopped reading once I realised the tone of your argument, shame really.


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11/06/2019 2:34 pm  

I think neither is to blame. Emery wants to play a particular style (not his player and not his fault) that isn't suited to Ozil (wasn't signed by Emery and is just giving his best) and exposes his weaknesses. 

Emery's approach to the game does not help Ozil and Ozil's approach to the game does not help Emery. Emery uses him sparingly and subs him often due to not getting out of the role what he is looking for and Ozil is unhappy because he is the highest paid player at the club and therefore expects the club to be built around him. 

The best outcome for our club would be for Ozil to find himself at a club that appreciates him as much as he thinks he deserves to be, so that Unai can bring in a player more suited to his needs. If Emery gets rid of Ozil, finds a replacement, and underperforms, then by all means haul him over the coals, but you can hardly judge him when he is stuck with a disruptive force that clearly isn't on board with what the coach is trying to achieve, and thinks that he is entitled to 90 minutes every game. 

Emery gave Ramsey the cold shoulder and look how he responded (class act), Ozil is on 350k a week and behaves like a child. I am tired of seeing it and it cannot be good for the players around him. 


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Thief of Dreams
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11/06/2019 3:52 pm  

@ddk3 Very well put! Made me change the way I look at the issue a bit. Thanks!

 


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Admin Martin
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11/06/2019 5:05 pm  

@Midkemma You need to calm down, this obsession of yours with Ozil is unhealthy and less of the foul language, please.

@Bakugan Same to you, uncalled for insult and abuse towards each other will not be accepted.

You BOTH been warned


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Shaka Zulu
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18/06/2019 10:01 pm  

Mesut should be loaned out to the Chinese with the option to buy,he needs a new start.


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Tendai Mareya
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31/07/2019 2:37 pm  

I think Ozil is to blame. This guy is lazy and arrogant 


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Thief of Dreams
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01/08/2019 5:55 pm  

I have not been impressed with Özil the last seasons and wanted him sold. But maybe, just maybe the signings of Pepe and Ceballos could be exactly what Özil needs. I hope it will resparks Özils fire because then we will profit immensly. There is a huge chance he will keep being poor, but I am at least willing to cling to hope one last time.


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